Linux PCI-HOWTO Par Michael Will, Michael.Will@student.uni-tuebingen.de v0.6g, 30 Mars 1997 Informations sur les cartes PCI qui fonctionne avec Linux ainsi que celles qui ne fonctionnent pas. Retrouvez la dernière version de ce document à The Linux Documentation Project ______________________________________________________________________ Table des matières 1. Introduction 2. Pourquoi le PCI? 2.1 Présentation générale 2.2 Performances 2.3 La puce SCSI-II NCR53c810 intégrée 2.4 Drew Eckhardt à propos du PCI-SCSI: 2.5 Nouvelle version alpha du pilote NCR 2.6 Le pilote EATA-DMA et les contrôleurs SCSI PCI DPT 2.7 BT-946C Entièrement supporté depuis les versions 1.3.x du noyau 2.8 Future Domain TMC-3260 PCI SCSI 2.9 Autres pensées sur le SCSI 3. Cartes ASUS 3.1 ASUS et le NMI (Parité) -- l'impact que cela à sur les Gravis-Ultrasound 3.2 Divers types de cartes ASUS 3.2.1 ASUS SP3 avec un chipset saturn I (rev. 2) pour 486, 3.2.2 ASUS SP3G avec un chipset II (rev. 4) pour 486, 3.2.3 ASUS chipset SP3-SiS, pour 486 3.2.4 ASUS AP4, pour 486, avec PCI/ISA/VesaLocalbus 3.2.5 ASUS SP4-SiS, for Pentium90, PCI/ISA 3.2.6 ASUS TP4 with Triton chipset and EDO-Support 3.2.7 ASUS TP4XE with Triton chipset and additional SRAM/EDORAM support 3.2.8 ...and many others now. 3.3 Benchmarks on ASUS Mainboards 3.3.1 ASUS SP3 with amd486DX4-100 3.3.2 ASUS SP3 with amd486DX4-120 3.3.3 ASUS SP3 with intel486DX2-66 3.3.4 ASUS TP4/XE with intel586-90 3.3.5 ASUS TP4/XE with intel586-100 3.4 Detailed information on the old ASUS PCI-I-SP3 with saturn chipset from heinrich@zsv.gmd.de: 3.5 Pat Dowler (dowler@pt1B1106.FSH.UVic.CA) with ASUS SP3G 4. confusion about saturn chipsets 5. Video-Cards 6. Ethernet Cards 6.1 3com-3c590-tpo 6.2 DEC435 PCI NIC 7. Motherboards 7.1 ASUS 7.2 Micronics P54i-90 7.3 SA486P AIO-II 7.4 Sirius SPACE 7.5 Gateway-2000 7.6 Intel-Premiere 7.7 DELL Poweredge SP4100 gbelow@pmail.sams.ch - successful 7.8 DELL OptiPlex Gl+ 575 torsten@videonetworks.com - successful when turning off plug and play 7.9 Comtrade Best Buy PCI / PCI48X MB Rev 1.0 7.10 IDeal PCI / PCI48X MB Rev 1.0 7.11 CMD Tech. PCI IDE / CSA-6400C 7.12 GA-486iS (Gigabyte) 7.13 GA-586-ID (Gigabyte) 90 Mhz Pentium PCI/EISA Board 7.14 ESCOM 486dx2/66 - which board? 7.15 J-Bond with i486dx2/66 7.16 super micro 011895 03:50 SUPER P54CI-PCI rev 1.3 (Opti) 8. reports on success 8.1 GigaByte GA486-AM with AMD Am5x86-133-WB @ 160MHz (40MHz PCI) 8.2 California Graphics - Sunray II Pro 8.3 Micronics P54i-90 (root@intellibase.gte.com) 8.4 Angelo Haritsis (ah@doc.ic.ac.uk) about SA486P AIO-II: 8.5 bill.foster@mccaw.com about his Micronics M5Pi 8.6 Simon Karpen (karpens@ncssm-server.ncssm.edu) with Micronics M54pi 8.7 Goerg von Below (gbelow@pmail.sams.ch) about DELL Poweredge 8.8 zenon@resonex.com about Gateway2000 P-66 8.9 James D. Levine (jdl@netcom.com) with Gateway2000 8.10 hi86@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SPACE 8.11 grif@cs.ucr.edu with INTEL 8.12 Jermoe Meyers (jeromem@amiserv.xnet.com) with Intel Premiere 8.13 Timothy Demarest (demarest@rerf.or.jp) Intel Plato Premiere II 8.13.1 Flash Bios upgrades 8.13.2 NCR 53c810 BIOSless PCI SCSI 8.13.3 apart from that - plug and play! 8.14 heinrich@zsv.gmd.de with ASUS 8.15 CARSTEN@AWORLD.aworld.de with ASUS 8.16 Lars Heinemann (lars@uni-paderborn.de) with ASUS 8.17 Ruediger.Funck@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE with ASUS 8.18 robert logan (rl@de-montfort.ac.uk with GW/2000) 8.19 archie@CS.Berkeley.EDU and his friend use ASUS 8.20 Michael Will with ASUS-SP3 486 (the old one) 8.21 Mike Frisch (mfrisch@saturn.tlug.org) Giga-Byte 486IM 8.22 Karl Keyte (kkeyte@esoc.bitnet) Gigabyte GA586 Pentium 8.23 kenf@clark.net with G/W 2000 8.24 Joerg Wedeck (jw@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de) / ESCOM 8.25 Ulrich Teichert / ASUS 9. Reports of problems 9.1 Compaq PCI systems, especially Presarios 9.2 VLSI Wildcat PCI chipset like in Zeos P120 box 9.3 dmarples@comms.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk G/W 2000 9.4 cip574@wpax01.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Frank Hofmann) / ASUS 9.5 axel@avalanche.cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Mahler) / ASUS 9.6 Frank Strauss (strauss@dagoba.escape.de) / ASUS 9.7 egooch@mc.com / ASUS 9.8 Stefan.Dalibor@informatik.uni-erlangen.de / GigaByte 9.9 Steve Durst (sdurst@burns.rl.af.mil) with UMC 8500 mainboard 9.10 Tom Drabenstott (tldraben@Teleport.Com) with Comtrade / PCI48IX 10. General tips for PCI-Motherboard + Linux NCR PCI SCSI 10.1 DON'Ts: 10.2 SIMM slots 10.3 Praised PCI Pentium motherboard 10.4 irq-lines 10.5 Info about the different NCR 8xx family scsi chips: 10.5.1 53C810 10.5.2 53C815 10.5.3 53C825 10.6 future of 53c8xx 10.7 Performance of the 53c810 10.8 News about NCR53c825 support 10.9 Frederic POTTER (Frederic.Potter@masi.ibp.fr) about Pentium+NCR+Strap_bug 10.10 PCIprobe in the latest Linux Kernels by Frederic Potter 10.11 Other PCI Devices 10.11.1 Cyclades: a 16-port PCI RISC-based multiport card. 11. Conclusion 12. Thanks 13. copyright/legalese 14. GPL - Gnu Public License ______________________________________________________________________ 11.. IInnttrroodduuccttiioonn Beaucoup de gens, moi inclus, aimeraient faire marcher Linux sur une machine basée sur une carte mère PCI. Puisqu'il n'est pas évident de trouver quelles carte mère PCI et quelles cartes PCI marcheront avec Linux, ainsi que celles qui ne marcheront pas, j'ai fait ma petite enquête et passé quelques heures a récapituler toutes mes informations ici. Si vous avez des informations a ajouter, envoyez moi un email. Si vous avez des question, allez y. Note : "puce embarquée" se réfère a une puce SCSI intégrée sur la carte mère plutôt que sur une carte PCI. De plus, les "guillemets" ici peuvent avoir un sens spécial. 22.. PPoouurrqquuooii llee PPCCII?? 22..11.. PPrréésseennttaattiioonn ggéénnéérraallee Sur une architecture PC, il y a différents BUS qui sont susceptibles d'être présents. IISSAA 8 ou 16 bit, économique, lent (habituellement 8 Mhz), standard, beaucoup de cartes disponibles EEIISSAA 32 bit, cher, rapide, peux de cartes disponibles, en déclin MMCCAA 16 ou 32 bit autrefois propriétaire IBM, rapide, devenant rare VVEESSAA--LLooccaall--BBuuss 32 bit, basé sur les architectures 486, économique, rapide, beaucoup de cartes disponibles PPCCII--LLooccaall--BBuuss 32 bit (prochainement 64 bit), économique, rapide, beaucoup de cartes disponibles, devenu un standard MCA étais très bien, mais n'a jamais percé, car il étais utilisé uniquement sur des anciennes machines IBM PS/2. Il y eu très peu de cartes. EISA étais fiable, mais assez cher, et plus destiné aux serveurs qu'au grand public. Il doit y avoir un peu plus de cartes disponibles que pour le MCA. VESA-Local-Bus (VLB) avais quelques problèmes si la vitesse du bus étais trop élevée, et il n'étais pas très fiable, mais se vendit très bien, principalement du au fait qu'il étais peu cher et plus rapide que l'ISA. Techniquement, c'est quasiment une interface directe avec le bus du 486. La majorité des cartes VESA devraient être stable maintenant. Au début de l'année 1996, beaucoup de cartes 486 supportaient encore le VESA, mais le PCI est en nette progression. Les bus VESA étaient directement liés a la vitesse du bus mémoire des 486, ou a la moitié de la vitesse du bus des Pentium. Le PCI est en train de prendre l'avantage. Tout comme l'EISA, il n'est pas propriétaire. il est aussi rapide que l'EISA ou le MCA, et est moins cher. La majorité des cartes mères pentium utilisent des bus PCI; le VESA devient de plus en plus rare. Quasiment toutes les cartes et les cartes mères PCI vendues depuis début 1996 sont 32 bits et tournent de 0 à 33 MHz. De nos jours, la majorité des cartes mères utilisent le bus PCI a la moitié de leur bus mémoire (ex : 33 MHz pour un bus a 66 MHz sur les P66, P100, P133, P166 ; 30 MHz pour un bus à 60 MHz sur les P60, P90, P120, P150 ; et 25 MHz pour un bus a 50 MHz sur les P75). Ceci est probablement aussi le cas des cartes mères Cyrix 6x86. L'implémentation des NexGen 5x86 n'est pas encore disponible. Les spécifications du PCI autorisent un fonctionnement asynchrone par rapport au processeur, (ex : 33 MHz sur un P75), mais cela n'est pas très répandu. PCI 2.1 à été défini, autorisant le PCI 64 bit, et/ou des opérations jusqu'à 66 MHz, mais aucun chipset x86 ne supporte ces options. le PCI 64 bit apparaîtra certainement en premier, dans un mode 32/64 bit compatible. C'est a dire qu'il sera possible de mélanger les cartes 32 et 64 bit. Le PCI à 66 MHz prendra plus de temps, car il est très contraignant techniquement, ne pourrais supporter qu'une ou peut être deux cartes par pont, et ne marcherais pas bien avec les cartes 33 MHz. Le PCI ne dépends pas du microprocesseur comme en dépendais le VESA Local Bus. Cela signifie que vous pouvez utiliser une carte winner-1000-PCI sur un ordinateur a base d'alpha aussi bien que sur un ordinateur basé sur un processeur Intel. A part Intel et DEC Alpha, le PCI est utilisé sur quelques Power PC. Il existe quelques variations sur le PCI qu'il faut connaître : Certaines implémentations supportent les cartes "Bus Master" sur tous les slots PCI, certaines sur un seul slot, et certaines pas du tout ; Certaines implémentations supportent le "pontage" (bridging) sur les cartes, et certaines pas. 22..22.. PPeerrffoorrmmaanncceess En provenance de la propagande Pro-PCI de Craig Sutphin Contrairement a certains bus locaux, qui ont uniquement pour unique but d'accélérer les graphismes, le bus local PCI est une solution complète, fournissant des performances accrues pour le réseau, les disques durs, la vidéo en temps réel, les graphiques et tous les périphériques demandant beaucoup de vitesse. A 33 MHz, le bus synchrone PCI transfère 32 bits de données a une vitesse pouvant atteindre 132 Mo/s. L'extension a 64 bits du bus PCI permettra de doubler la vitesse (264 Mo/s) et offrira une compatibilité ascendante et descendante pour les périphériques sur les bus a 32 et 64 bits. Grâce au fait qu'il soit dépendant du processeur, le bus PCI est optimisé pour les opérations d'entrées/sorties, autorisant le bus PCI a opérer de façon concurrente avec le processeur et la mémoire. Pour les utilisateurs de PC haut de gamme, le PCI délivre une grande fiabilité, de hautes performances, ainsi qu'une facilité d'utilisation plus abor­ dable qu'aucun autre système avant lui; il n'y a pas d'opérations impossibles a 33 MHz. Une taille de mémoire variable ainsi que la possibilité d'activer le "burst mode" en lecture ou en écriture augmentent les performances graphiques. Avoir compris les prérequis en matière de charge et de fréquence a éliminé les problèmes de tampons et de logique figée. Référez vous aux chapitres sur le tests pour quelques tests de base (et certainement sans grande signification) sur les cartes PCI ASUS avec des 486 et des 586. 22..33.. LLaa ppuuccee SSCCSSII--IIII NNCCRR5533cc881100 iinnttééggrrééee L'une des fonctionnalités intéressantes de certaines cartes mères PCI est la puce SCSI-II intégrée, qui est sensée être aussi rapide que la carte EISA Adaptec 1742, mais moins chère. Des pilotes pour DOS et OS2 sont disponibles. Drew Eckard a sorti de pilote pour la NCR53c810, qui est inclus en standard depuis la version 1.2 du noyau. Cela marche d'ailleurs si bien que j'ai vendu ma carte ISA Adaptec 1542 juste après l'achat de la carte PCI ASUS SP3 Saturn II, car j'ai trouvé que le contrôleur NCR intégré étais bien plus rapide. La puce NCR53c810 est embarquée sur certaines cartes mères PCI. Il y a aussi quelques cartes filles disponibles aux alentours de $70. Il n'y a qu'une seule chose que j'ai remarqué a propos de cette puce et qui ne marchais pas avec les pilotes de l'époque est que la déconnexion/reconnexion ne marchais pas, donc, l'utilisation d'un lecteur de bande SCSI pouvais être dur, spécialement lors de l'utilisation d'un "mt erase" ou d'une commande similaire avais pour effet de bloquer la chaîne SCSI jusqu'à ce que la commande se termine. Comme cela ne me plaisait pas du tout, j'ai acheté une de ces bonnes mais chères carte SCSI DPT et je n'ai plus eu ce genre de problèmes. On m'a dit que ce problème avais été résolu par Drew dorénavant. FreeBSD supporte le NCR83x810 depuis un bon bout de temps maintenant, incluant le Tagged Command Queues, FAST, WIDE, et déconnexion pour les puces NCR 53c810, 815 et 825. Drew pense qu'il doit être possible d'adapter le pilote FreeBSD à Linux. J'ai aperçu quelques patchs réalisant cela, quelqu'un aurais l'adresse ? J'ai personnellement l'impression qu'il y a quelques réinvention de roue a cause de l'évolution concurrente de FreeBSD et de Linux. Un peu de coopération pourrais entre les deux systèmes ne peut faire que du bien... 22..44.. DDrreeww EEcckkhhaarrddtt àà pprrooppooss dduu PPCCII--SSCCSSII:: Drew à écrit a la fin du moi de mars 1995 a propos du SCSI sur du PCI : (légèrement réécrit pour clarifier le contexte) Les Adaptec 2940, Buslogic BT946, BT946W, cartes DPT PCI, Future Domain 3260, NCR53c810, NCR53c815, NCR53c820, et NCR53c825 marcheront toutes a quelques variations près sur le mot marcher. · L'Adaptec 2940 souffre des mêmes problèmes de câblage que toutes les cartes récentes, mais cela mis a part, marche très bien. · Les cartes Future Domain ne fonctionnent pas en maître du bus, et le pilote ne supporte pas de recevoir plusieurs commandes simultanément. Si vous n'avez pas besoin (pour l'instant) de commandes multiples, prenez une carte NCR, elle sera moins chère, et fonctionne en maître du bus. Si vous avez besoin des commandes multiples, prenez une carte Buslogic. · La carte Buslogic BT956W fonctionnera en WIDE avec le pilote Linux (bien que vous ne pourrez pas utiliser les id 8 à 15), L'Adaptec 2940W (avec une ligne de patch au pilote de la 2940) ne marchera pas en WIDE, ni les NCR53c820 ou NCR53c825. · Les cartes NCR sont franchement pas chères (<$70 US), sont généralement assez rapides, mais le pilote ne supporte pas encore les commandes multiples. Un pilote alpha est maintenant publiquement disponible, nous en reparlons un peu plus bas. · Les cartes Emulux, Forex, et autre cartes non mentionnées ici ne marcheront pas. 22..55.. NNoouuvveellllee vveerrssiioonn aallpphhaa dduu ppiilloottee NNCCRR Bon, ce n'est plus vraiment très très récent, tentez d'utiliser la version qui se trouve dans les noyaux 2.0 avant de lire cette section. Des pilotes NCR alpha qui gèrent des choses comme les déconnexions/reconnexion, et les transferts synchrones sont maintenant publiquement disponibles. tout ceux que cela amuse de jouer avec devraient : · rejoindre la liste NCR en envoyant un mail a majordomo@colorado.edu avec comme texte : ``subscribe ncr53c810''. · Récupérer les fichiers README, ainsi que le dernier patch depuis : 22..66.. LLee ppiilloottee EEAATTAA--DDMMAA eett lleess ccoonnttrrôôlleeuurrss SSCCSSII PPCCII DDPPTT Le pilote SCSI EATA-DMA a connu maints changements et supporte dorénavant des contrôleurs SCSI PCI, les contrôleurs multiples ainsi que tous les canaux des cartes multicanaux SmartCache/Raid dans toutes les combinaisons possibles entre WIDE, FAST-20 (ultra) et DIFFERENTIAL. Le pilote supporte intégralement les contrôleurs SCSI compatibles avec le protocole EATA-DMA (document CAM/89-004 version 2.0c), et a été testé avec beaucoup de ces contrôleurs utilisés ensembles dans diverses combinaisons. Ceux la sont : (ISA) (EISA) (PCI) DPT Smartcache : PM2011 PM2012B Smartcache III : PM2021 PM2022 PM2024 PM2122 PM2124 PM2322 Smartcache IV : PM2041 PM2042 PM2044 PM2142 PM2144 PM2322 SmartRAID : PM3021 PM3122 PM3222 PM3224 PM3334 ainsi que plusieurs contrôleurs venant de NEC, AT&T, SNI, AST, Olivetti et Alphatronix. Sur une carte DPT de base (pas de cache ni de module RAID), i, MC680x0 contrôle la puce qui gère la maîtrise du bus et le DMA, ainsi que la puce contrôleur SCSI. La carte DPT SCSI fonctionne un peu comme un coprocesseur SCSI. La carte DPT émule un contrôleur/disque IDE (interface ST506), ce qui vous permet de l'utiliser avec tous les systèmes d'exploitations même si ils n'ont pas de pilote EATA. Sur une carte avec le module de cache, le 680x0 gère le cache embarqué. La carte DPT supporte jusqu'à 64 Mo de cache. Sur une carte avec le module RAID, le 680x0 gère aussi le RAID, faisant du miroir en RAID-1, réalisant l'agrégation et le contrôle de parité en RAID-5, etc. Les cartes d'entrée de gamme utilisent un Motorola 68000, le haut de gamme, utilisent des processeurs plus spécifiques au raid comme les microprocesseurs 68020, 68030 ou 68040/40MHz. Les prix varient entre $265 et $1.645 (18 janvier 1996) Comme cela fait maintes fois que l'on me demande ou l'on peut acheter ce cartes en Europe, j'ai demandé a DPT de m'envoyer une liste de leurs revendeurs Européens. En voila un petit aperçu : Austria: Macrotron GmbH Tel:+43 1 408 15430 Fax:+43 1 408 1545 Denmark: Tallgrass Technologies A/S Tel:+45 86 14 7000 Fax:+45 86 14 7333 Finland: Computer 2000 Finnland OY Tel:+35 80 887 331 Fax:+35 80 887 333 43 France : Chip Technologies Tel:+33 1 49 60 1011 Fax:+33 1 49 599350 Germany: Akro Datensysteme GmbH Tel:+49 (0)89 3178701 Fax:+49 (0)89 31787299 Russia : Soft-tronik Tel:+7 812 315 92 76 Fax:+7 812 311 01 08 U.K. : Ambar Systems Ltd. Tel:+44 1296 311 300 Fax:+44 296 479 461 "AMHA, les cartes DPT sont les meilleures cartes SCSI disponibles pour les PC. Et j'ai écrit du code pour a peu près tous les types de cartes SCSI pour PC. (bien que, je n'arrive pas a savoir pourquoi !) ;-)" Jon R. Taylor (jtaylor@magicnet.net) President, Visionix, Inc. La dernière version du pilote EATA-DMA et une disquette de boot pour slackware sont disponibles sur : ftp.i-Connect.Net:/pub/Local/EATA Depuis la version 1.1.81 du noyau, le pilote est inclu en standard. L'auteur peut etre joint à ces deux adresses : neuffer@mail.uni- mainz.de or mike@i-Connect.Net 22..77.. BBTT--994466CC EEnnttiièèrreemmeenntt ssuuppppoorrttéé ddeeppuuiiss lleess vveerrssiioonnss 11..33..xx dduu nnooyyaauu Il y a un pilote dans les noyaux 1.3.x (disponible en patch pour le noyau 1.2.13) écrit par une personne en relation avec buslogic et qui supporte complètement le 946C et TOUTES ses fonctionnalités incluant l'optimisation des E/S, requetes multiples, fragmentation/regroupements multiples, multiple boites aux lettres, le partage d'IRQ, et oui, 15 périphériques en Fast/Wide. Il n'est plus nécessaire de d'utiliser l'émulation ISA avec le pilote (pas de canal DMA, pas d'adresse ISA), et le pilote est _r_a_p_i_d_e et _s_t_a_b_l_e (il n'est plus en version BETA, et est totalement opérationnel). Le pilote est disponible sur ftp.dandelion.com (le pilote le plus récent peut toujours être récupéré en tapant : "get BusLogic*"). Il supporte TOUS les contrôleurs BusLogic sauf le FlashPoint LT, qui utilise une interface différente. Le pilote est inclus dans les version 1.3.x du noyau en tant que périphérique BusLogic standard. 22..88.. FFuuttuurree DDoommaaiinn TTMMCC--33226600 PPCCII SSCCSSII Rik Faith (faith@cs.unc.edu) m'a fait savoir le 1/2/1995 que la carte Future Domain TMC-3260 PCI SCSI etais suportée par le pilote Future Domain 16x0 SCSI. Des informations plus récentes se trouvent dans le SCSI-HOWTO. · La détection n'est pas totalement au point, et n'utilise pas la méthode standard de détection des périphériques PCI (quelqu'un ayant une carte PCI doit m'envoyer un patch pour corriger ce problème). Donc, vous allez avoir a jouer avec le module de détection du noyau pour que votre carte soit détectée. · Le pilote ne supporte toujours pas les commandes multiples, votre système se bloquera donc pendant que votre bande se rembobine. · Le pilote ne supporte pas le pseudo mode de transfert 32 bits supporté par les dernieres puces Future Domain, vous n'aurez donc pas de taux de transferts aussi rapide que sous DOS. · Le pilote ne supporte que le protocole SCSI-I, donc, vos disques vraiment rapides ne seront pas utilisés au maximum de leur capacité de transfert. (encore une fois, des patchs pour tous ces problèmes sont les bienvenus, personne ne travaillant sur ces sujets en ce moment.) 22..99.. AAuuttrreess ppeennssééeess ssuurr llee SSCCSSII James Soutter (J.K.Soutter1@lut.ac.uk) m'a demandé d'ajouter cette section sur le Fast Wide SCSI-2 : Le Fast Wide SCSI-2 est quelquefois incorrectement appelé SCSI-3. Il diffère du Fast SCSI-II normal (comme l'Adaptec 1542B?) car il utilise un bus de 16 bits a la place du tra­ ditionnel bus 8 bits. Cela augmente les taux de transferts de 10 MB/s à 20 MB/s mais requiert des disques Fast Wide SCSI-2 spéciaux. Les performances ajoutées du Fast Wide SCSI-2 n'amélioreront pas forcement la vitesse de votre système. La majorité des disques ont une vitesse interne inférieure a 10 MB/s, et par conséquent, un disque seul ne pourra pas flooder un bus Fast SCSI-2. Dans la présentation des produits Seagate d'octobre 1993, seul un disque Fast Wide SCSI-2 a un taux de transfert interne de plus de 10 MB/s (le ST2450W). La majorité des disques ont un taux de transfert interne d'au maximum 6 MB/s, toutefois, le ST2450W n'est pas la seule exception à la règle. En conclusion, le Fast Wide SCSI est conçu pour le marché des serveurs de fichiers et ne sera as utile pour une utilisation personnelle. Plutôt que d'acheter un système PCI avec une interface SCSI embarquée, ou plutôt que d'attendre qu'un pilote NCR sorte, Vous devriez plutôt acheter une carte SCSI PCI séparée. D'après Drew, la seule solution PCI qui tienne la route est la BusLogic 946. Elle devrais être compatible avec l'Adaptec 1540, comme la série des cartes EISA/VESA/ISA. Drew commenta que d'autres contrôleurs SCSI PCI ne seront certainement pas supportés sous Linux ou les BSD car les contrôleurs NCR sont moins cher et plus répandus. Je recommande définitivement a tous de lire le SCSI HOWTO pour de plus amples informations sur les pilotes SCSI PCI. Ernst Kloecker (ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de) a écrit (édité) : Talus Corporation a terminé le pilote NS/FIP pour les cartes PCI avec une puce NCR SCSI. Il devrais être très bientôt distribué, il sera peut être même gratuit car une tierce partie paiera peut être pour le travail et donnera le pilote a NeXT. Toutes les cartes PCI n'ont pas la puce, la vielle ASUS l'a, et une carte J-Bond l'a aussi. (La majorité des cartes de nos jours (6/95) supposent que vous achèterez la carte séparément.) Quelques vendeurs fournissent une alternative comme vous pouvez le lire dans ce que dit Drew... La puce NCR est assez intelligente pour marcher avec des disques formatés par d'autre contrôleurs, et ne devrais pas poser de problèmes. 33.. CCaarrtteess AASSUUSS 33..11.. AASSUUSS eett llee NNMMII ((PPaarriittéé)) ---- ll''iimmppaacctt qquuee cceellaa àà ssuurr lleess GGrraavviiss-- UUllttrraassoouunndd Les nouvelles cartes mères trition PCI de 1995 ne semblent plus supporter les mémoires simm avec parité. Comme je prenais habituellement des simm sans contrôle de parité, je ne trouvais pas que cela pose un problème jusqu'à ce que je mette une carte Gravis- Ultrasound dans ma machine. Sous DOS, le pilote SBOS et l'utilitaire de test se plaignait de "nmi procedure disabled on this p.c." (procédure nmi désactivée sur ce PC, nmi signifiant non masquable interrupt). Le manuel qui disait que dans ce cas je ferais mieux d'acheter une meilleur carte mère, n'étais pas d'une très grande aide. La Gravis-Ultrasound marchais très bien sur une ASUS-SP3 et une ASUS- SP4, malgré cela, mais la Gravis-Ultrasound max que GUS max au lieu du petit buffer pour la GUS - pourquoi, je ne le sait pas. Je n'ai plus ces problèmes avec les récentes cartes ASUS TP4 XE. Ces deux cartes sont équipées d'1M de DRAM. Ces problèmes ne sont probablement pas reliés aux problèmes de NMI, mais au pilote de la carte son ? J'ai entendu dire que non seulement ASUS, mais la majorité des cartes PCI récentes n'ont pas de support de parité/NMI. Pour compliquer - l'ASUS-TP4 (chipset triton) marche avec la GUS Max - il charge le pilote SBOS. Je doit admettre que je suis confus. 33..22.. DDiivveerrss ttyyppeess ddee ccaarrtteess AASSUUSS 33..22..11.. AASSUUSS SSPP33 aavveecc uunn cchhiippsseett ssaattuurrnn II ((rreevv.. 22)) ppoouurr 448866,, · 2 x rs232 avec un uart 16550, · NCR53c810 embarquée, · le chipset saturn est legerement defectueux 33..22..22.. AASSUUSS SSPP33GG aavveecc uunn cchhiippsseett IIII ((rreevv.. 44)) ppoouurr 448866,, comme la SP3, mais le chipset est moins buggé. 33..22..33.. AASSUUSS cchhiippsseett SSPP33--SSiiSS,, ppoouurr 448866 Comme la AP4, mais plus récente, un chipset SiS, des fonctions d'économie d'énergie et tout en EIDE, rs232 avec 2 uart 16550 et un port //. Il n'y a que deux slots SIMM. Il semble que l'AMD486DX4/120 fonctionne, mais ne semble pas très stable bien marcher avec le NCR53c810 et certains systemes d'exploitations (Windows-NT, Windows95, OS2), apres avoir mis a jour vers une carte pentium ASUS SP4, tous les problemes ont disparus, donc, ca doit venir de la carte. Toutefois, cela semble tres bien marcher avec Linux. 33..22..44.. AASSUUSS AAPP44,, ppoouurr 448866,, aavveecc PPCCII//IISSAA//VVeessaaLLooccaallbbuuss Economie d'energie, 1VL, 3 ISA, 4 PCI, controleur EIDE embarqué, pas de controleur de disquettes, pas de ports rs232, ni de //. tres petite. Reconnait l'AMD486DX2/66 comme un DX4/100.... does recognice AMD486DX2/66 as DX4/100 only. This can be corrected with soldering one pin (which?) to ground, but I would not recommend a board like this anyway. The one I tested was broken for OS2 and Linux, but people are said to use it for both. The VesaLocalbus-Slot is expected to be slower than the normal vesa- localbus boards because of the PCI2VL bridge, but without penalty to the PCI section. 33..22..55.. AASSUUSS SSPP44--SSiiSS,, ffoorr PPeennttiiuumm9900,, PPCCII//IISSAA like SP3-SiS, but for Pentium90/100. 33..22..66.. AASSUUSS TTPP44 wwiitthh TTrriittoonn cchhiippsseett aanndd EEDDOO--SSuuppppoorrtt has the Triton-Chipset for better performance and supports normal PS2-Simms as well as Fast-Page-Mode and EDO modules. 33..22..77.. AASSUUSS TTPP44XXEE wwiitthh TTrriittoonn cchhiippsseett aanndd aaddddiittiioonnaall SSRRAAMM//EEDDOORRAAMM ssuupp­­ ppoorrtt supports the new EDORAM and upcoming SRAM standards. At least SRAM is said to considerabely increase performance. Did for some reason not accept the 8M PS2-SIMMS working ok in ASUS SP4, after changing them against others, bigger looking ones, (16 chips instead of 8 if I remember right) it worked ok. Has been tested with P90 and P100. 33..22..88.. ......aanndd mmaannyy ootthheerrss nnooww.. if you have new information on problems with them, please report. 33..33.. BBeenncchhmmaarrkkss oonn AASSUUSS MMaaiinnbbooaarrddss I tried to compare the speed of CPUs in two ASUS Mainboards: for 486 I tested the SP3 SiS (the one with one vesa-local-bus slot) and for 586 I tested the ASUS TP4/XE, each with 16M RAM, always the same unloaded system with another CPU, with whetstone and dhrystone. I must admit, I have not read the benchmarks-faq yet, and will probably edit the section a loot soon. If you have any comments, please mail me. I am especially confused about the amd486DX4/100 being faster on dhrystones than the DX4/120 version? I did not see that kind of inconsistency on comparing the P90 and P100. Perhaps this was at fault: when I plugged in the amdDX4-100, I had the board jumpered for DX2-66. While the BIOS did report it as an DX4-100, the board might have used the wrong clockspeeds... but since DX2-66 uses 33Mhz * 2 and DX4 uses 33Mhz * 3, this would have been correct? The board running with DX4-120 is jumpered to 40Mhz * 3 = 120 Mhz. Another thing I wonder about is why the whetstones-result does yield so even numbers on some machines? 33..33..11.. AASSUUSS SSPP33 wwiitthh aammdd448866DDXX44--110000 · Dhrystone time for 500000 passes = 7 by 63559 dhrystones/second · Whetstone time for 1000 passes = 5 by 200.0000 Whetstones/second 33..33..22.. AASSUUSS SSPP33 wwiitthh aammdd448866DDXX44--112200 · Dhrystone time for 500000 passes = 8 by 56074 dhrystones/second · Whetstone time for 1000 passes = 4 by 250.0000 Whetstones/second 33..33..33.. AASSUUSS SSPP33 wwiitthh iinntteell448866DDXX22--6666 · Dhrystone time for 500000 passes = 9 by 50761 dhrystones/second · Whetstone time for 1000 passes = 7 by 142.8571 Whetstones/second 33..33..44.. AASSUUSS TTPP44//XXEE wwiitthh iinntteell558866--9900 · Dhrystone time for 500000 passes = 4 by 101010 dhrystones/second · Whetstone time for 1000 passes = 3 by 333.3333 Whetstones/second 33..33..55.. AASSUUSS TTPP44//XXEE wwiitthh iinntteell558866--110000 · Dhrystone time for 500000 passes = 4 by 102040 dhrystones/second · Whetstone time for 1000 passes = 2 by 500.0000 Whetstones/second 33..44.. DDeettaaiilleedd iinnffoorrmmaattiioonn oonn tthhee oolldd AASSUUSS PPCCII--II--SSPP33 wwiitthh ssaattuurrnn cchhiippsseett ffrroomm hheeiinnrriicchh@@zzssvv..ggmmdd..ddee:: · 3 PCI, 4 ISA Slots (3x16, 1x8 Bit) · ZIF Socket for the CPU · room for 4 72pin-SIMMs (max. 128M) · Award BIOS in Flash-Eprom · Onboard: NCR-SCSI, 1par, 2ser (with FIFO), AT-Bus, Floppy The board does like most in that price class -- write-through cache, no write-back. This should not be significant, maybe 3% of performance. The BIOS supports scsi-drives under DOS/Windows without additional drivers, but with the board come additional drivers which are said to give better performance, for DOS/Windows(ASPI), OS2, Windows-NT, SCO- Unix, Netware (3.11 and 4, if interpreted correctly) Gert Doering (gert@greenie.muc.de) was saying the SCO-Unix-driver for the onboard-SCSI-Chip was not working properly. After two or three times doing: "time dd if=/dev/rhd20 of=/dev/null bs=100k count=500" it kernel-paniced... The trouble some people experienced with this board might be due to them using an outboard Adaptec-SCSI-Controller with "sync negotiation" turned on. (This predates the NCR driver release; hence the use of the Adaptec.) Please check that in the BIOS-Setup of the Adaptec-1542C if you use one and have problems with occasional hangups! There is a new version of the ASUS-Board which should have definitely less problems. It is called ASUS-PCI-I/SP3G, the G is important. It has the new Saturn-chipset rev. 4 and the bugs should be gone. They use the Saturn-ZX-variant and the new SP3G has fully PCI conforming level-triggered (thus shareable), BIOS-configurable interrupts. It has an on-board PS/2-mouseport, EPA-power-saving-modes and DX4-support, too. It performs excellently. If you can get the German computer magazine C't from July (?), you will find a test report where the ASUS-Board is the best around. Latest information about ASUS-SP3-G: You might experience crashes when using PCI-to-Memory-Posting. If you disable this, all works perfect. jw@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de said he believed it to be a problem of the current Linux-kernel rather than the hardware, because part of the system still works when crashing, looking like a deadlock in the swapper, and OS2/DOS/WINDOZE don't crash at all. Someone else with a very old ASUS-SP3 (saturn-I chipset) reported crashes with using XFree86, which went away when he installed the very latest betaversion which seems to work around a bit of the problems. 33..55.. PPaatt DDoowwlleerr ((ddoowwlleerr@@pptt11BB11110066..FFSSHH..UUVViicc..CCAA)) wwiitthh AASSUUSS SSPP33GG · ASUS SP3G board (it is rev.4 == saturn II) · AMD DX4-100 CPU (need to set jumper 36 to 1&2 rather than 2&3, otherwise it's set the same as other 486DXn chips) · 256K cache (comes with 15ns cache :-) · 16meg RAM (2x8meg) · ET4000 ISA video card · quantum IDE hard drive · SMC Elitel16 combo ethernet card Unlike some other reports, I find the mouse pointer moves very smoothy under X (just like the ol' 386) - it is jumpy under some, but not all, DOS games though... Performance is great!! I ran some large floating point tests and found the performance in 3x33 (100MHz) mode to be almost 1.5x that in 2x (66MHz) mode (large being 500x500 doubles - 4meg or so)... I was a little dubious about clock-tripling but I seem to be getting full benefit :-) The heavily configurable energy star stuff doesn't work with the current AMD DX4 chips - you need an SL chip I really need a SCSI disk and a PCI video card :-) (I had a phonecall by a person who had this problem with the buggy SMC FIFO chipset, after using X-window they hung.) 44.. ccoonnffuussiioonn aabboouutt ssaattuurrnn cchhiippsseettss Pat Duffy (duffy@theory.chem.ubc.ca) said: Saturn I: these are revisions 1 and 2 of the Saturn chipsets. Saturn II: This is also called rev. 4 of the Saturn chipsets. As far as I know, rev. 3 never actually shipped, and (from a few people who have it) the SP3G now has rev. 4 (or Saturn II) in it. Confused? Well, the only real definitive answer is to get ahold of the board and run the debug script in the PCI chipset list on it. As far as I know, though, the SP3G board is indeed shipping with rev. 4 (Saturn II). 55.. VViiddeeoo--CCaarrddss Linux people have successfully used # 9 XGE Level 12, ELSA Winner 1000, and S3-928 video cards. The XFree86(tm)-3.1.1 does support boards with the tseng et4000/w32 in accelerated mode, as well as S3 Vision 864 and 964 chipsets including boards like the ELSA Winner 1000Pro and 2000Pro, Number Nine GXE64 and GXE64Pro, Miro Crystal 20SV). Support in the S3 Server for the Chrontel8391 clock chip has been added. Trio32 and Trio64 S3 Boards like the SPEA V7 Mirage P64 PCI and MIRO Crystal 40SV, are also supported, the Mach32 and Mach64 are supported in accelerated mode, too. The SVGA Driver 16bpp mode (65K colors instead of the usual 256) support for Mach32 boards as well as 32bpp for some S3 boards and the P9000 boards has been added. tldraben@teleport.com reported: · Diamond Stealth W32 (et4000/W32) -- Text mode works, X11 suffered from "pixel dust", unbearable never got it to work and returned it. · # 9GXE L12 -- Works, virtual consoles corrupted when switched, fixed this with disabling the "fast dram mode" feature in his BIOS. Does not get a dot clock above 85, though. Genoa Phantom 8900PCI card seems to work well. Genoa Phantom/W32 2MB does not work in an ASUS-Board. Tseng 3000/W32i chipset seems to work well. Spea-v7 mercury-lite works perfectly since XFree86(tm)-2.1. Spea V7 Mirage P64 PCI 2M with Trio64 works nice since XFree86(tm)-3.1.1 ATI Graphics Ultra Pro for PCI with 2MB VRAM and an ATI68875C DAC run well as dem@skyline.dayton.oh.us tells us: "It's humming right along at 1280x1024 w/256 colors @74Hz non-interlaced. Looks great." Paradise WD90C33 PCI did lock up on screensaver/X - this has been solved in the newer versions of the kernel. jbauer@badlands.NoDak.edu (John Edward Bauer) miroChrystal 8S/PCI (1MB) S3 - no problem. Stephen Tweedie reported his Cirrus Logics 5434 PCI card works well. It is a 64bit with 2M and runs perfectly with the SVGA driver in 8, 16 and 32 bit per pixel. 66.. EEtthheerrnneett CCaarrddss Of course the ISA-ethernet-cards still work, but people are asking for PCI-based ones. The author of many (if not most) ethernet- drivers said the following some time ago (unfortunately I have not managed to contact him about new information): From: Donald Becker (becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov) Subject: PCI ethernet cards supported? The LANCE code has been extended to handle the PCI version. I hope to get the PCI probe code (about a dozen extra lines in the LANCE driver) into the next kernel version. I'm working on the 32 bit mode code. I haven't yet started the 21040 code. I'll write drivers for the PCnet32 mode and the DEC 21040. That will cover most of the PCI ethercard market. file://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/people/becker/whoiam.html In the new testkernels of 1.1.50 and above, the AMD-singlechip ethernetadapters are supported. With a pentium, they ought to then see 900K/second ftps +(assuming an NCR PCI scsi controller) at about 20% cpu load. (AMD Lance). Anything based on the AMD PCnet/PCI chip should work at the time being. In the US the Boca board costs under US$ 70 Geoffry Coram reported in the news that he got his 3com 590 TPO to work. He had to get the alpha driver from http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers. Other drivers would be there as well. Note http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html Donald Holmgren said he successfully attached his DEC DE435 (PCI) card to the local network on thin coax (BNC). The DE435 driver checks the twisted pair connection first, then switches to the alternate port (jumper selectable as AUI or BNC) if the 10BaseT port fails. Jim Cusick uses the Boca BEN 1PI card on a thin coax network. It works just fine. You might want to check out: http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/misc/boca-failure.html for details on the early failures of this card. My second card, after sending one back for replacement, was marked "PN 4186". The old one that did not work was "PN 4185". Mandate this newer model when you order from you vendor. At $ 70, the card is a good deal. Dave Platt recommends to stay off the Boca BEN1PI card at all costs. It would be unreliable due to design flaws, and Boca seems unable to really fix the problem. The 3Com 3c590 "Vortex" PCI card is available in a combo version (10BaseT, thin coax, and AUI). The Linux driver for this card is not yet part of the release kernel, but is available from http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html and can be patched into the later 1.2.x kernels (as well as 1.3.x) without much difficulty. The Linux driver does not support the interface autodetect feature of this card - you must use the DOS utility to configure the card for the interface you wish to use (thin coax in this case). Once you've done that, the Linux driver will use the correct interface. He has been using a 3c590 for several weeks, and it is working fine. Dave Kennedy said he got two of the above Boca boards and they work fine under light load, but under heavy work like ftping two 16M files into both directions, they failed. He sent the boards back to Boca for a hardwarefix. After they soldered a couple of things (diodes/resistors) onto the card and sent them back, the cards worked fine regardless of load. The two cards have been in 7/24 use in two P90 systems without problems for 6 months now. Craig does not recommend it since Boca seems not to follow the AMD specs but he has been running them for 2 weeks without problems. He tested his NFS performance and has been moving large files to and from server (16M, 8M). He also tried to do all his workin localy using his data files mounted by NFS and has had no problems. Performance seems to be 100 percent better (wrt to NFS performance) over his NE2000 ISA board. (editors note: but so would probably have been the ISA SMC Elite Ultra?) 66..11.. 33ccoomm--33cc559900--ttppoo Someone on usenet mentioned ht used the 3Com-3C590-TPO (EtherLink III - PCI). He had to get the "3c59x.c" driver and "vortex.patch" to make it work with his 1.2.8 Linux kernel. 66..22.. DDEECC443355 PPCCII NNIICC The DEC435 PCI NIC is said to work great with the drivers included in the Slackwaredistribution - I'd say they are in the standard-kernel? 77.. MMootthheerrbbooaarrddss The people who answered were using the following boards: 77..11.. AASSUUSS · Ruediger.Funck@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE - successful. · strauss@dagoba.escape.de - half-successful, works, but... · krypton@netzservice.de (Ulrich Teichert), - successful. · heinrich@zsv.gmd.de - successful · CARSTEN@AWORLD.aworld.de - successful · egooch@mc.com - successful - but trouble with the serial port · archie@CS.Berkeley.EDU and his friend - successful after solving IDE-puzzle · Lars Heinemann (lars@uni-paderborn.de) successful · Michael Will (Michael.Will@student.uni-tuebingen.de) - successful. 77..22.. MMiiccrroonniiccss PP5544ii--9900 root@intellibase.gte.com succesful bill.foster@mccaw.com successful karpens@ncssm-server.ncssm.edu successful 77..33.. SSAA448866PP AAIIOO--IIII ah@doc.ic.ac.uk successful 77..44.. SSiirriiuuss SSPPAACCEE hi86@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de - successful 77..55.. GGaatteewwaayy--22000000 kenf@clark.net - no problems except the soundcard he tries to swap dmarples@comms.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk - successful, but... robert logan (rl@de-montfort.ac.uk) - flawless. James D. Levine (jdl@netcom.com) - flawless. 77..66.. IInntteell--PPrreemmiieerree grif@cs.ucr.edu - successful jeromem@amiserv.xnet.com - successful demarest@rerf.or.jp - successful (Premier-II) 77..77.. DDEELLLL PPoowweerreeddggee SSPP44110000 ggbbeellooww@@ppmmaaiill..ssaammss..cchh -- ssuucccceessssffuull 77..88.. ttoorrsstteenn@@vviiddeeoonneettwwoorrkkss..ccoomm -- ssuucccceessssffuull wwhheenn ttuurrnniinngg ooffff pplluugg aanndd ppllaayy DDEELLLL OOppttiiPPlleexx GGll++ 557755 77..99.. CCoommttrraaddee BBeesstt BBuuyy PPCCII // PPCCII4488XX MMBB RReevv 11..00 tldraben@Teleport.Com - "Works, I believe it has buggy Saturn chipset. I would also like to add: I strongly recommend not buying from Contrade. Their service is horrible. " 77..1100.. IIDDeeaall PPCCII // PPCCII4488XX MMBB RReevv 11..00 tldraben@Teleport.Com - "Did not work with PCI48X motherboard" 77..1111.. CCMMDD TTeecchh.. PPCCII IIDDEE // CCSSAA--66440000CC tldraben@TelePort.com - "Works" 77..1122.. GGAA--448866iiSS ((GGiiggaabbyyttee)) Stefan.Dalibor@informatik.uni-erlangen.de - success with problems. 77..1133.. GGAA--558866--IIDD ((GGiiggaabbyyttee)) 9900 MMhhzz PPeennttiiuumm PPCCII//EEIISSAA BBooaarrdd kkeyte@esoc.bitnet - succesful 77..1144.. EESSCCOOMM 448866ddxx22//6666 -- wwhhiicchh bbooaarrdd?? Works perfect except the ftape-streamer (archive) 77..1155.. JJ--BBoonndd wwiitthh ii448866ddxx22//6666 Drew Eckhardt (drew@kinglear.cs.Colorado.EDU) uses Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM with 4M of memory (964 based). It works great, he usualy runs it at 1024x768 72hz in 32bpp; 16 and 8bpp also work. He needed to get the X311u2S3.tgz server from ftp.xfree86.org; people with 968 based Diamond boards will definately need to do this. 77..1166.. ssuuppeerr mmiiccrroo 001111889955 0033::5500 SSUUPPEERR PP5544CCII--PPCCII rreevv 11..33 ((OOppttii)) Manuel de Vega Barreiro · board super micro 011895 03:50 SUPER P54CI-PCI rev 1.3 · Opti chipset: 82c557,82c556,82c558,82c621. · 4 PCI, 4 ISA Slots (4x16 Bit) · ZIF Socket for CPU (120,100,90,75 mHz) · 4 72 pin-SIMMs (max 128Mb) · cache 256,512,1024 Kb L2-cache · Ami WinBIOS in Flash-Eprom (101094-VIPER-P) · onboard: EIDE for 4 drives · Pentium with 90Mhz, 8M (now 16M) RAM and 256K L2-cache. · 1 maxtor 540 Mb, 1 st3122A 1Gb · Number Nine 9GXE64pro with 2Mb · Sound blaster 16 + cdrom Matsushita · 17" microscan 5ep ADI monitor I run linux 1.1.57 (now 1.2.1) without problems. dosemu0.53 work fine (com. software like kermit and xtalk) XFree86 3.1 at 1024x768 resolution 88.. rreeppoorrttss oonn ssuucccceessss 88..11.. GGiiggaaBByyttee GGAA448866--AAMM wwiitthh AAMMDD AAmm55xx8866--113333--WWBB @@ 116600MMHHzz ((4400MMHHzz PPCCII)) GigaByte GA486-AM · AMD Am5x86-133-WB @ 160MHz (40MHz PCI) · BIOS as of 11/07/95 (Rev.A) · 256KB 2nd level cache (15ns) · 48MB RAM (Mixed 60/70ns) Hercules Terminator 64/VIDEO (S3 765 or "Trio 64V+") Sound Blaster 16 · Panasonic CR563 CD-ROM drive Silicon 4Ser/3Par I/O · Mouse · Terminal · Terminal · Modem (14k4) · HP Laserjet III Mitsumi CD-ROM controller · FX001D drive Longshine 1MBit Floppy controller · IOMega Tape Insider 250 · 3,5" Floppy · 5,25" Floppy No Network card, because the 4 ISA slots are full, and I don't have a PCI card. I (now) use kernel 2.0.22 with APM enabled, and the hard drives power down and up properly without panics. The system is 24hrs up a day and still running. Kernel compilation takes between 5 and 7 minutes, depending on options. 88..22.. CCaalliiffoorrnniiaa GGrraapphhiiccss -- SSuunnrraayy IIII PPrroo Guido Trentalancia (guido@gulliver.unian.it) reported the California Graphics - Sunray II Pro with Triton chipset to work well with Pentium100, Hd: Conner cfs420a, Conner cfs210a, crunching numbers at 147492 dhrystones/second. 88..33.. MMiiccrroonniiccss PP5544ii--9900 ((rroooott@@iinntteelllliibbaassee..ggttee..ccoomm)) Pentium with 90Mhz, 32M RAM and 512K L2-cache. Works extremely well (a kernel recompile takes 10 minutes :-). The board includes: · UART - two 16550A high speed UARTS · ECP - one enhanced parallel port · Onboard IDE controller · Onboard floppy controller Pros: Currently, I'm using it with an Adaptec 1542CF and a 1G Seagate drive, No problems. Graphics is ATI Graphics Pro Turbo (PCI). Very fast. The serial ports can keep up with a TeleBit T3000 modem (38400) without overruns. Caching above 16M does occur. There are 3 banks of SIMM slots (2 SIMM's per bank), with each bank capable of 64M each (2 32M 72-pin SIMM's). Each bank must be filled completely to be used (I'm only using bank 0 with 2 16Mx72-pin SIMM's). The CPU socket is a ZIF type socket. The BIOS is Phoenix, FLASH type. Drawbacks: RAM is expandable to 192M, but the L2 cache is maxed at 512K. While the graphics are very fast, there is currently no XF86 server for the Mach64 (well, actually there is, but it doesn't use any of the accelerator features; it's just an SVGA server). I don't know if the onboard IDE hard drive controller works; I'm prejudiced against a standard that won't allow my peripherals to operate across platforms, so I didn't buy an IDE disk; instead, I got a Seagate 31200N and a NEC 3Xi. Mitch 88..44.. AAnnggeelloo HHaarriittssiiss ((aahh@@ddoocc..iicc..aacc..uukk)) aabboouutt SSAA448866PP AAIIOO--IIII:: The motherboard I eventually bought (in the UK) is one supporting 486 SX/DX/DX2/DX4 chips. It is called SA486P AIO-II. Features include: · Intel Saturn v2 chipset · Phoenix BIOS (flash eprom option) · NCR scsi BIOS v 3.04.00 · 256K 15ns cache (max 512) write back and write through · 4 72-pin SIMM slots in 2 banks · 3 PCI slots, 4 ISA · On-board NCR 53c810 scsi controller · On-board IDE / floppy / 2 x 16550A uarts / enhanced parallel I bought it from a company (UK) called ICS, (note I have no connections whatsoever with the company, just a happy customer). I use a 486/DX2-66 CPU. Before I had a VLB 486 m/board with a buslogic BT-445S controller that I was borrowing. I have 2 scsi devices: 1 barracuda 2.1GB ST12550N disk and a Wangtek 5525ES tape drive. I was expecting a lot of adventures by switching to the new motherboard, esp after hearing all these non-success stories on the net. To my surprise everything worked flawlessly on the 1st boot! (1.1.50). And it has been doing so for about a month now. I did not even have to repartition the disk: apparently the disk geometry bios translation of the 2 controllers is the same. Linux has had no problems at all. SCSI is visibly much faster as well (sorry, I have no actual performance measurements). The only problems (related to Drew's linux ncr53c7,810 scsi driver - thanks for the good work Drew!) are: · no synchronous transfers are yet supported => performance hit · disconnect/reconnect is disabled => disk scsi ops "hold" during certain slow scsi device opeartions (eg tape rewind) · tagged queuing is not there (?) => performance hit If you get Windows complainingg about 32-bit disk driver problems, just disable 32-bit disk access via Control Panel. This should not hurt performance. (What I did is remove the WDCTRL driver from my SYSTEM.INI). All else is fine. I tried the serial ports with some dos/windows s/w and worked ok. The IDE/floppy work ok as well. I have not tried the parallel yet. The motherboard is quite fast and so far I am very pleased with the upgrade. I have not yet tried a PCI graphics board. I will later on. I am using an old ISA S3 which is fine at the moment. PS: the NCR drivers in the 2.0.x kernels should have no problems of that kind anymore. please consult the SCSI-HOWTO for further and hopefully more uptodate information. 88..55.. bbiillll..ffoosstteerr@@mmccccaaww..ccoomm aabboouutt hhiiss MMiiccrroonniiccss MM55PPii Micronics M5Pi motherboard with 60 MHz Pentium, PCI bus having the following components: 16Mb RAM/512k cache onboard IDE, parallel, 16550A UARTS 2 X 340MB Maxtor IDE Hard Drives Soundblaster 16 SCSI-II Toshiba 3401B SCSI CD-ROM Archive Viper 525MB SCSI Tape Drive Viewsonic 17 monitor Cardex Challenger PCI video card (ET4000/W32P) A4-Tech Serial Mouse Everything works great, Slackware installation was very easy, I can run Quicken 7 for DOS under DOSEMU. I run X at 1152x900 resolution at 67Hz. 88..66.. SSiimmoonn KKaarrppeenn ((kkaarrppeennss@@nnccssssmm--sseerrvveerr..nnccssssmm..eedduu)) wwiitthh MMiiccrroonniiccss MM5544ppii I have had no problems with the above board, the on-board PCI IDE (hopefully soon will also have SCSI), and an ATI Mach32 (GUP) with 2MB of VRAM. 88..77.. GGooeerrgg vvoonn BBeellooww ((ggbbeellooww@@ppmmaaiill..ssaammss..cchh)) aabboouutt DDEELLLL PPoowweerreeddggee - Intel 486DX4/100 - 16 MB RAM - DELL SCSI array (DSA) with Firmware A07, DSA-Manager 1.7 - 1 GB SCSI HD DIGITAL - NEC SCSI CD-ROM - 2 GB internal SCSI streamer - 3-Com C579 EISA Ethernet card - ATI 6800AX PCI VGA subsystem, 1024 MB RAM CAVE! DELL SCSI Array controller (DSA) runs only with firmware Rev. A07 ! A06 is buggy, impossible to reboot ! To get it: ftp dell.com , file is /dellbbs/dsa/dsaman17.zip Apart from this firmware-problem there where no problems for the last 2 months, running with linux 1.1.42 as primary nameserver, newsserver and www-server on internet. 88..88.. zzeennoonn@@rreessoonneexx..ccoomm aabboouutt GGaatteewwaayy22000000 PP--6666 Gateway2000's P5-66 system with Intel's PCI motherboard, with 5 ISA slots and 3 PCI slots. The only PCI card I am using is the # 9 GXe level 12 PCI card (2 MB VRAM and 1 MB DRAM). This card was bought from Dell. Under Linux I am using the graphics in the 80x25 mode only (I am waiting for some XFree86 refinements before using it in 1280x1024 resolution), but under DOS/Windows I have used the card in 1280x1024x256 mode without problems. Etherlink 3C509 Ethernet card, Mitsumi bus-interface card, Adaptec 1542C SCSI interface card and additional serial/parallel ports card (which makes the total of serial ports 3). I have total of 32 MB RAM (recognized and used by both Linux and DOS). There is also a bus mouse (Microsoft in the PS2 mode). No problems so far. 88..99.. JJaammeess DD.. LLeevviinnee ((jjddll@@nneettccoomm..ccoomm)) wwiitthh GGaatteewwaayy22000000 Gateway 2000 P5-60 with an Intel Mercury motherboard, AMI-Flash-BIOS, (1.00.03.AF1, (c)'92) 16M RAM, on-board IDE controller and an ATI AX0 (Mach32 Ultra XLR) PCI display adapter. He had absolutely no problems with the hardware so far but has not tried anything fancy, such as accelerated IDE drivers or SCSI support. 88..1100.. hhii8866@@rrzz..uunnii--kkaarrllssrruuhhee..ddee wwiitthh SSPPAACCEE SPACE-board, 8MB RAM, S3 805 1MB DRAM PCI 260MB Seagate IDE-hard disk because of lack of NCR53c810-Driver, 0.99pl15d, does seem to work well. 88..1111.. ggrriiff@@ccss..uuccrr..eedduu wwiitthh IINNTTEELL 17 machines running a 60Mhz-i586 on Intel-Premier-PCI-Board 88..1122.. JJeerrmmooee MMeeyyeerrss ((jjeerroommeemm@@aammiisseerrvv..xxnneett..ccoomm)) wwiitthh IInntteell PPrreemmiieerree Motherboard - Intel Premiere Plato-babyAT 90mhz with Buslogic bt946c w/4.86 mcode w/4.22 autoSCSI firmware, (note, mine came with 4.80 mcode and 4.17 autoSCSI firmware. (interrupt pins A,B,C conform to respective PCI slots!) ATI Xpression (Mach64) - using driver from sunsite, (running AcerView 56L monitor). The motherboard has 4 IDE drives, Linux (Slackware 2.0) sees the first two and everything on the Buslogic as it emulates an adaptec 1542. Uh, yes, Dos sees them all. Buslogic is VERY accomodating in regards to shipping upgraded chips (you will have to know how to change PLCC (plastic leaded chip carrier) chips, 3 of them. Though, don't let that scare you :-) it's not that tough. Get a low end PLCC removal tool, and your in business. You also might want to "flash upgrade your system bios from Intel's IPAN BBS, a trivial process. Whats even more interesting is I also have a Sound Blaster SCSI-2 running a scsi CDROM drive off it's adaptech 1522 onboard controller. So thats 4 IDE drives (2 under Linux) and 2 SCSI-2 controllers. I hope this helps others who are struggling with PCI technology use Linux! Jerry (jeromem@xnet.com) 88..1133.. TTiimmootthhyy DDeemmaarreesstt ((ddeemmaarreesstt@@rreerrff..oorr..jjpp)) IInntteell PPllaattoo PPrreemmiieerree IIII My system is configured as follows: 16Mb 60ns RAM, 3Com Etherlink-III 53C809 ethernet card (using 10base2), ATI Mach 64 2Mb VRAM, Toshiba 2x SCSI CDROM, NCR 53c810 PCI SCSI, Syquest 3270 270Mb Cartridge Drive, Viewsonic 17 monitor, Pentium-90 (FDIV Bug Free). Running Slackware 2.1.0, Kernel 1.2.0, with other misc patches/upgrades. Everything is functioning flawlessly. I dont recommend the Syquest drives. I have used the 3105 and the 3270 and both a very, very fragile. Also, the cartridges are easily damaged and I have had frequent problems with them. I am in the process of looking for alternative removable storage (MO, Zip, Minidisc, etc). Some information you might need: 88..1133..11.. FFllaasshh BBiiooss uuppggrraaddeess Flash Bios updates can be ftp'd from wuarchive.wustl.edu:/pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/plato. The current version is 1.00.12.AX1. The BIOS upgrades *must* be done in order. 1.00.03.AZ1 to 1.00.06.AX1 to 1.00.08.AX1 to 1.00.10.AX1 to 1.00.12.AX1. The Flash BIOS updates can also be downloaded from the Intel BBS. I do not have that number right now. 88..1133..22.. NNCCRR 5533cc881100 BBIIOOSSlleessss PPCCII SSCCSSII If you are using an NCR 53c810 BIOSless PCI SCSI card in the Plato, you may have trouble getting the card to be recognized. I had to change one of the jumpers on the NCR card: the jumper that controls whether there is 1 or 2 NCR SCSI cards in your system must be set to "2". I dont know why, but this is how I got it to work. The other jumper controls the INT setting (A,B,C,D). I left mine at A (the default). 88..1133..33.. aappaarrtt ffrroomm tthhaatt -- pplluugg aanndd ppllaayy!! There are no settings in the motherboard BIOS for setting the NCR 53c810. Dont worry - once the card is jumpered correctly, it will be recognized! So much for PCI Plug-n-Play! 88..1144.. hheeiinnrriicchh@@zzssvv..ggmmdd..ddee wwiitthh AASSUUSS ASUS-PCI-Board (SP3) having: · -- Asus PCI-Board with AMD 486/dx2-66 and 16M RAM · -- Fujitsu 2196ESA 1G SCSI-II · -- Future Domain 850MEX Controller (cheap-SCSI-Controller, almost a clone to Seagate's ST01... want's to use ncr53c810 as soon as the driver comes out · -- ATI Graphics Ultra (the older one with Mach-8 Chip, ISA-Bus) · -- Slackware 1.1.1 He just exchanged the boards, plugged his cards in, connected the cables, and it worked perfect. He does not use any PCI-Cards yet, though. 88..1155.. CCAARRSSTTEENN@@AAWWOORRLLDD..aawwoorrlldd..ddee wwiitthh AASSUUSS ASUS-PCI-Board with 486DX66/2, miro-crystal 8s PCI driven by the S3-drivers of XFree86-2.0, using the onboard SCSI-Chip. No problems with compatibility at all. 88..1166.. LLaarrss HHeeiinneemmaannnn ((llaarrss@@uunnii--ppaaddeerrbboorrnn..ddee)) wwiitthh AASSUUSS ASUS PCI/I-486SP3 Motherboard w/ 486DX2/66 and 16M RAM (2x8), miroChrystal 8S/PCI (1MB) S3, Soundblaster PRO, Adaptec 1542b (3.20 ROM) SCSI host adapter with two hard disks (Fujitsu M2694ESA u. Quantum LPS52) and a QIC-150 Streamer attached. No problems at all! 88..1177.. RRuueeddiiggeerr..FFuunncckk@@PPhhyyssiikk..TTUU--MMuueenncchheenn..DDEE wwiitthh AASSUUSS ASUS PCI/I-486SP3 / i486DX2-66 / 8 MB PS/2 70 ns BIOS: Award v 4.50 CPU TO DRAM write buffer: enabled CPU TO PCI write buffer: enabled PCI TO DRAM write buffer: disabled, unchangeable CPU TO PCI burst write: enabled Miro Crystal 8s PCI - S3 P86C805 - 1MB DRAM Quantum LPS 540S SCSI-Harddisk on NCR53c810-controller. 88..1188.. rroobbeerrtt llooggaann ((rrll@@ddee--mmoonnttffoorrtt..aacc..uukk wwiitthh GGWW//22000000)) Gateway 2000 4DX2-66P 16 Megs RAM, PCI ATI AX0 2MB DRAM (ATI GUP). WD 2540 Hard Disk (528 Megs) CrystalScan 1776LE 17inch. (Runs up to 1280x1024) Slackware 1.1.2 (0.99pl15f) It is giving no problems. He uses SLIP for networking and an Orchid- Soundwave-32 for niceties, awaiting the NCR-Driver. The only problem he has is that the IDE-Drive could be much faster on the PCI-IDE. It is one of the new Western Digital fast drives and in DOS/WfW it absolutely screams - on Linux it is just as slow as a good IDE-Drive. 88..1199.. aarrcchhiiee@@CCSS..BBeerrkkeelleeyy..EEDDUU aanndd hhiiss ffrriieenndd uussee AASSUUSS Archie and his friend have rather similar configurations: · ASUS PCI-SP3 board (4 ISA, 3 PCI) · Intel 486DX2/66 · Genoa Phantom 8900PCI card (friend: Tseng 3000/W32i chipset) · Maxtor 345 MB IDE hard drive · Supra 14.4 internal modem · ViewSonic 6e monitor (Archie) · NEC Multisync 4fge (friend) · Slackware 1.2.0 The onboard-SCSI is disabled. First there were problems with the IDE- drive: ``on the board there's a jumper which selects whether IRQ14 comes from the ISA bus or the PCI bus. The manual has an example where they show connecting it to PCI INT-A. Well, we did that just like the example... but then later our IDE drive would not work (the IDE controller is on board). Had to take it back. The guys at NCA were puzzled, then traced it back to this jumper. I guess the IDE controller uses IRQ14 or something? That's not documented anywhere in the manual. Other than that, seems to be kicking ass nicely now. Running X, modeming, etc. (for the Supra you have to explicitly tell the kernel that the COM port has a 16550A using setserial (in Slackware /etc/rc.d/rc.serial))''. 88..2200.. MMiicchhaaeell WWiillll wwiitthh AASSUUSS--SSPP33 448866 ((tthhee oolldd oonnee)) used the following: · ASUS PCI-SP3-Board with 486dx2/66 and 16M RAM · NCR53c810-SCSI-II chip driving a 1GB-Seagate-SCSI-II disk and a Wangtec-tape · ATI-GUP PCI Mach32 Graphics card with 2M VRAM running perfectly with XFree86(tm)-3.1 8bpp and 16bpp · Linux kernel 1.1.69 It runs perfectly and I am content with the speed, the ATI-GUP-PCI (Mach32) does not give as good benchmarks as expected, though. Since I got the money by now, I got me an ASUS-SP4 with P90 which gives me better throughput on Mach32-PCI... If I had even more money I'd get me another 16M of RAM and a Mach64-PCI with 4M RAM, though... I still keep on dreaming :-) 88..2211.. MMiikkee FFrriisscchh ((mmffrriisscchh@@ssaattuurrnn..ttlluugg..oorrgg)) GGiiggaa--BByyttee 448866IIMM · Motherboard: Giga-Byte 486IM · Configuration: 4 ISA slots (2 double as VLB) and 4 PCI slots · CPU: Intel 486DX/33 · BIOS: Award 4.50G · PCI EIDE Disk Controller: Giga-Byte GA-107 (CMD 640x PCI Multi-I/O) · PCI Video card: ATI Graphics eXpression PCI 2MB DRAM · Linux Kernel: 1.2.9 · Linux Dist'n: Highly modified Slackware 2.2.0 I have been running this board 24 hours a day for the past 5-6 months. It has worked flawlessly for me under DOS/Windows, OS/2 Warp, and Linux (with Linux being run usually 24 hours a day). 88..2222.. KKaarrll KKeeyyttee ((kkkkeeyyttee@@eessoocc..bbiittnneett)) GGiiggaabbyyttee GGAA558866 PPeennttiiuumm · PCI/EISA Board Gigabyte GA586-ID 90MHz Pentium (dual processor, one fitted) · 32M RAM · SCSI - no scsi-NCR-chip on-board, using Adaptec 1542C, · PCI ATI GUP 2M VRAM · Adaptec 1742 EISA SCSI controller · Soundblaster 16 · usual I/O Everything under DOS AND Linux works perfectly. No problem whatsoever. A VERY fast machine! BYTE Unix benchmarks place it about the same as a Sun SuperSPARC-20 running Solaris 2.3. The PC is faster for integer arithmetic and process stuff (including context switching). The SPARC is faster for floating point and one of the disk benchmarks. 88..2233.. kkeennff@@ccllaarrkk..nneett wwiitthh GG//WW 22000000 He uses a Gateway 2000 with no problems, except the soundcard (which one?). He is trading it in for a genuine soundblaster in hopes that will help. 88..2244.. JJooeerrgg WWeeddeecckk ((jjww@@ppeeaannuuttss..iinnffoorrmmaattiikk..uunnii--ttuueebbiinnggeenn..ddee)) // EESSCCOOMM originaly buyed a 486 DX2/66 from ESCOM (which board?) with onboard IDE and without (!) onboard NCR-SCSI-chip. ISA-adaptec 1542cf scsi- controller instead spea v7 mercury lite (s3, PCI, 1MB), ISA- Soundblaster-16, mitsumi-cdrom (the slower one). Everything except the archive-streamer works with no problems. The spea-v7 works perfectly since XFree86-2.1 He abandoned the Intel-board in favour of an ASUS-SP3-g and has some problems with PCI-to-Memory burstmode which is crashing only on Linux, "looking like a deadlock in the swapper". If you have any information on this, please eMail the maintainer of the PCI-HOWTO. After turning off the PCI-to-Memory posting feature it just works perfect. Rather than sending him mail please read his http-homepage at "http://wsiserv.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/ jw" where he keeps information about his PCI-system, too. 88..2255.. UUllrriicchh TTeeiicchheerrtt // AASSUUSS ASUS-PCI board with AMD486dx40 (but actually running at 33Mhz?!) His ISA-ET3000 Optima 1024A ISA works nice. No problems with Quantum540S SCSI Harddisk attached to the onboard NCR53c810. 99.. RReeppoorrttss ooff pprroobblleemmss 99..11.. CCoommppaaqq PPCCII ssyysstteemmss,, eessppeecciiaallllyy PPrreessaarriiooss Patrick Yaner (p_yaner@eos.ncsu.edu) reported a Compaq-speciality to me. It seems they are mapping the PCI BIOS data area to an obscure area of memory, one that Linux (or OS2) cannot access. It can usually find it, but it can't get in, and gives a message on startup (something like "pcibios_init: entry in high memory area, unable to access"). Although this is alright with the display (which is on the PCI bus) and the IDE controller (also PCI), it means any other PCI devices -- such as an Ethernet card -- cannot be detected by Linux. Compaq offers a driver for DOS at ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/Drivers/SP1116.ZIP but using this with linux would mean using the program that boots linux from DOS, instead of LILO. Note that Compaq occasionally updates the software in this archive, so the file ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/allfiles.html (also available as allfiles.txt) might be handy in checking to see that they haven't upgraded. Oddly, this information can also be found in the SCSI HOWTO, although the Pressarios come with IDE built in. 99..22.. VVLLSSII WWiillddccaatt PPCCII cchhiippsseett lliikkee iinn ZZeeooss PP112200 bbooxx Paul Bame (bame@sde.hp.com) reported: The Wildcat PCI chipset works fine in late 1.3 and all 2.0 kernels. 99..33.. ddmmaarrpplleess@@ccoommmmss..eeeeee..ssttrraatthhccllyyddee..aacc..uukk GG//WW 22000000 Gateway 2000 G/W 2000 4DX2/66 PCI ATI-Graphics-Ultra-Pro IDE of indeterminate make It works well - only the IDE-Card runs in ISA-compatibility-mode, and works a lot faster when switched into PCI-Mode by a DOS-program... thus it's not that fast in Linux, and a patch would be nice. 99..44.. cciipp557744@@wwppaaxx0011..pphhyyssiikk..uunnii--wwuueerrzzbbuurrgg..ddee ((FFrraannkk HHooffmmaannnn)) // AASSUUSS He uses the ASUS-board with 16MB-RAM, ISA-based S3/928, and the onboard-IDE-controller with a Seagate ST4550A harddisk. He's had no trouble with the newer Linux-kernels. His problem: using X, my mouse is not responding the way I was used to before. It's sometimes behind movement and makes jumps if moved quickly. I think this was discussed In a Linux newsgroup before (I don't know which one) and is due to the use of 16550 serial chips for the onboard serial interfaces. After two weeks, I got used to it :-) Reducing the threshold of the 16550 should help. There should be a patch to setserial available somewhere, but I do not know where. 99..55.. aaxxeell@@aavvaallaanncchhee..ccss..ttuu--bbeerrlliinn..ddee ((AAxxeell MMaahhlleerr)) // AASSUUSS ASUS PCI/I-486SP3 Motherboard (Award BIOS 4.50), 16 MB RAM the on- Board NCR Chip is disabled, he had the Genoa Phantom/W32 2MB for PCI and a Adaptec AHA-1542CF (BIOS v2.01) connected to: · an IBM 1.05 GB Harddisk · a Toshiba CD-ROM (XM4101-B) · a HP DAT-Streamer (2GB) when creating the filesystems, 'mke2fs' (0.4, v. 1.11.93) hung and installation was impossible. After replacing the Genoa Phantom/W32 2MB PCI with an ELSA Winner 1000 2MB PCI it worked perfectly. He tested it with an old Eizo VGA-ISA and it worked as well, so the problem was in the Genoa-PCI-card. 99..66.. FFrraannkk SSttrraauussss ((ssttrraauussss@@ddaaggoobbaa..eessccaappee..ddee)) // AASSUUSS ASUS SP3 Board i486DX2/66 NCR53c810 disabled Adaptec 1542B in ISA Slot with 2 hard drives (200MB Maxtor, 420MB Fijutsu), SyQuest 88MB and Tandberg Streamer ELSA Winner 1000 PCI, 1MB-VRAM Soundblaster Pro in ISA Slot at IRQ 5 Onboard IDE disabled Onboard serial, parallel, FD enabled After a reset, the machine sometimes 'hangs' (soft and hard-reset the same) - this is probably not related to the Adaptec and the Soundcard, because even without these the system sometimes fails to come up. But if it runs, (and the ELSA-WINNER-1000-PCI-message appears) it runs ok. The two serial ports are detected as 16550 as they should, but at some mailbox-sessions there was heavy data-loss at V42bis... The problem seems to be in the hardware... CPU>-PCI-Burst seems to work well with DOS/MS-Windows CPU->PCI-Burst does not work properly with linux0.99p15, Messing up when switching the virtual-consoles, crashing completely when calling big apps like ghostview, or xdvi, leaving the SCSI-LED on (!). (I suspect these apps would be using a lot of CPU->PCI-burst because of the big heap of data to transmit to the PCI-Winner-1000) After disabling CPU->PCI-Burst, it works well, the Winner-1000 at 1152x846 (not much font cache with 1MB) does 93k xstones. OpaqueMove with twm is more than just endureable :-) He has got a SATURN.EXE which he loads under DOS before starting Linux, helping to turn on burst without hangs... Someone stated that these problems might go away when turning off "sync negotiation" on the Adaptec - I do not know if this is possible with the adaptec1542B too? But I guess so. With CPU->PCI-Burst it yielded 95k xstones, so he considers it as not too grave to do without. His only problem is that he would like to run his Winner-1000 at 1152x900 which fails because it seems to take any x-resolution higher than 1024pixels as a 1280pixel-resolution, thus wasting a lot end resulting in a y-resolution of 816pixels... but this is probably no PCI-related problem. It should have gone away with XFree86-2.1 99..77.. eeggoooocchh@@mmcc..ccoomm // AASSUUSS · BOARD ASUS PCI/I-486 SP3 RAM: 16MB (4x4M-SIMM) · CPU 486DX33 CPU · BIOS Ver. 4.50 (12/30/93) · Floppy Two floppy drives (1.2 and 1.44), using ASUS on- board floppy controller · SCSI tried both WD7000 SCSI controller and Adaptec 1542CF and worked. · Two SCSI 320M hard drives · SCSI NEC84 CDROM drive · SCSI QIC150 Archive tape drive · Video - Tseng ET4000 ISA graphics card · Sound PAS16 sound card · Printer attached to on-board ASUS parallel port He has nothing in the PCI-Slots yet, but wants to buy a PCI-Video- Card, currently uses WD7000 SCSI controller but will switch to the NCR-Chip onboard as soon as the driver is out. Everything works perfectly - the first serial port which has a 14.4K- Modem attached does hang occasionally when reconnecting with the modem after having used it previously. He says that would not be unique to ASUS but rather a bug in the SMC-LSI device with its 16550UART. The logitech-serial-mouse on the second port works fine. Setting down the threshold of the 16550 for the mouseport would definitely help, one does seem to need a special patched setserial for that? I have not got the information yet, please contact me if you know more! 99..88.. SStteeffaann..DDaalliibboorr@@iinnffoorrmmaattiikk..uunnii--eerrllaannggeenn..ddee // GGiiggaaBByyttee · Board - GA-486iS from Gigabyte w/ 256Kb 2L-Cache, i486-DX2 · Bios - AMI, 93/8 · SCSI - no scsi-NCR-chip on-board, using Adaptec 1542C, · Video - ELSA Winner 1000 · Linux 0.99pl14 + SCSI-Clustering-Patches / Slackware 1.1.1 All seems to go well, but he has not tried neither networking, printing or a streamer yet. Before applying the clustering- patches he had some problems with hangs triggered by "find", but this no longer is the case - perhaps it was an older kernel-bug. The ELSA-Winner-1000 sometimes hangs, with very strange patterns on the screen resolved only by rebooting... The dealer has told him it was a bug in the ELSA-Card, but the manufacturer claims it had solved the problem. The bug is not reproducible so he does not plan to take any action at the moment. All in all the machine seems to work very well under heavy text processing (emacs, LaTeX, xfig, ghostview) usage. Interaction is surprisingly responsive, little difference between it and the 3-4X as expensive Sun he works on... CPU->PCI-Burst is still disabled because the bios does not support the PCI-things well? A problem with his new modem (v32 terbo) arose: it looses characters. Especially when using SLIP it complains a lot about RX and TX errors. As soon as he runs X it gets unusable. He said he activated FIFO and RTS/CTS with stty, but to no avail... 99..99.. SStteevvee DDuurrsstt ((ssdduurrsstt@@bbuurrnnss..rrll..aaff..mmiill)) wwiitthh UUMMCC 88550000 mmaaiinnbbooaarrdd Running Linux 1.2.12 on the UMC8500-100Mhz motherboard with the dreaded CMD PCIO640B (E)IDE controller, when booting the screen wiggles a few seconds, as if the Diamond Stealth64-DRAM (S3 864) has to warm up first, but he can live with that. 99..1100.. TToomm DDrraabbeennssttootttt ((ttllddrraabbeenn@@TTeelleeppoorrtt..CCoomm)) wwiitthh CCoommttrraaddee // PPCCII4488IIXX PCI48IX Motherboard Rev. 1.0. Made by ??? documentation copyrighted by "exrc". The BIOS says not very much about PCI. His E-315E Super IDE UMC (863+865) ISA-Controller-card does have problems. (It is a multifunction controller-card). It seems to work well under DOS/OS2 but not under Linux. 1100.. GGeenneerraall ttiippss ffoorr PPCCII--MMootthheerrbbooaarrdd ++ LLiinnuuxx NNCCRR PPCCII SSCCSSII This was compiled by Angelo Haritsis (ah@doc.ic.ac.uk) from various people's postings: 1100..11.. DDOONN''TTss:: Do *NOT* go for combination VLB/PCI motherboards. They usually have a lot of problems. Get a plain PCI version (with ISA slots as well of course). A lot of bad things have been heard about OPTI chipset PCI motherboards. Someone hints: "Avoid the OPTi (82C596/82C597/82C822) chipset based motherboards like the TMC PCI54PV". (I know of at least one person having no problems with his TMC PCI54PV motherboard. He just had to put the NCR53c810 addonboard into slot-A which is the only slot capable of busmastering as it seems.) Rumours say that Intel chipset PCI motherboards will have problems with more than one bus-mastering PCI board. I have not tried this one yet on mine and have nothing to suggest. I also heard that the Saturn II chipset is problematic, but this is the one I use and it is perfectly ok! Advice: Try to negotiate a 1-2 week money back agreement with your supplier, in case the motherboard you get has problems with the use you plan for it. 1100..22.. SSIIMMMM sslloottss Go for 72-pin only SIMMs for speed: Some (all?) of the mainboards which take 30 pin SIMMs use a 32 bit main memory interface, and will be significantly slower than the Intel based boards which all use a 64 bit or permantly interleaved memory interface. You might want to keep that in mind. 1100..33.. PPrraaiisseedd PPCCII PPeennttiiuumm mmootthheerrbbooaarrdd The P90 Intel motherboard with the Intel Premiere II chipset (aka Plato). Get the latest BIOS which has concatenated NCR scsi BIOS 3.04.00. Otherwise DOS won't see your scsi disk(s) if you use a BIOS- less 53c810 based controller. NCR SCSI BIOS exists in the AMI BIOS of the plato after version 1.00.08 (or maybe verion 1.00.06). This BIOS is FLASH upgradeable so you should be able to get the upgrade on a floppy from your supplier. The current version is 1.00.10 and has all early problems fixed. (Bios files should be available at ftp.demon.co.uk:/pub/ibmpc/intel, but I did not check that myself. the Autor.) 1100..44.. iirrqq--lliinneess The value in the interrupt line PCI configuration register is usually set manually (for compatability with legacy ISA boards) in the extended CMOS setup screens on a per-slot or per-device basis. Older PCI mainboards also force you to set jumpers for each PCI slot/device which select how PCI INTA and perhaps INTB, INTC, and INTD are mapped to an 8259 IRQ line, Obviously, if these jumpers exist on your board, they must match the settings in the extended CMOS setup. Also note that some boards (notably Viglens) have silkscreens and instruction manuals which disagree with the wiring, and some experimentation may be in order. 1100..55.. IInnffoo aabboouutt tthhee ddiiffffeerreenntt NNCCRR 88xxxx ffaammiillyy ssccssii cchhiippss:: All NCR 8XX Chips are dircet connect PCI bus mastering devices, that have no preformance difference wether on motherboard or add in option card. All devices comply with PCI 2.0 Specification, and can burst 32 bit data at the full 33 MHz (133Mbytes/Sec) 1100..55..11.. 5533CC881100 53C810 = 8 bit Fast SCSI-2 (10 MB/Sec) Single ended only Requires Integrated Mother board BIOS 100 pin Quad Flat Pack (PQFP) Worlds first PCI SCSI Chip, Volumes make it the most inexpensive. 1100..55..22.. 5533CC881155 53C815 = 8 bit Fast SCSI-2 (10 MB/Sec) Single Ended only Support ROM BIOS interface, which makes it ideal for add-in card Designs. 128 Pin QFP 1100..55..33.. 5533CC882255 53C825 = 8 bit Fast SCSI-2, Single ended or Differential 16 bit Fast SCSI-2 (20 MB/Sec), Single ended or Differetial Also has support for external Rom, making it a good candidate for add in cards. 160 pin QFP Not supported by linux yet. (See section below on news about the 825). Must have devices with wide or differential scsi to use these features. 1100..66.. ffuuttuurree ooff 5533cc88xxxx There are 4 new devices planned for announcement late this year and into early next year. Footprint compitible with 810 and 825 with some new features. All the Chips require a BIOS in DOS/Intel applications. The 810 is the only chip that needs it resident on the motherboard. Latest NCR SCSI BIOS version: 3.04.00 The bios supports disks >1GB, indeed up to 8G under MS-LOSS. 1100..77.. PPeerrffoorrmmaannccee ooff tthhee 5533cc881100 C't magazine's DOS benchmarks showed that it was significantly faster than the Buslogic BT-946, one user noted a 10-15% performance increase versus an Adaptec 2940, and with a very fast disk it may be 2.5X as fast as an Adaptec 1540. 1100..88.. NNeewwss aabboouutt NNCCRR5533cc882255 ssuuppppoorrtt works. period. 1100..99.. FFrreeddeerriicc PPOOTTTTEERR ((FFrreeddeerriicc..PPootttteerr@@mmaassii..iibbpp..ffrr)) aabboouutt PPeenn­­ ttiiuumm++NNCCRR++SSttrraapp__bbuugg On some Intel Plato board, the NCR bios doesn't recognize the board, because it needs to see the board as a "secondary SCSI controller", and because on most SCSI board the jumper to select between primary/secondary has been ironed to primary (to spare 1 cent, presumably). Solution: near the NCR chip, they are 3 via ( kind of holes ) with a strap like that O--O O this mean primary is selected as default setting. For the Plato Intel Mainboard, it should be like that O O--O The best solution is to get rid of the strap and to put a 2 position jumper instead. 1100..1100.. PPCCIIpprroobbee iinn tthhee llaatteesstt LLiinnuuxx KKeerrnneellss bbyy FFrreeddeerriicc PPootttteerr Frederic Potter has added a PCI-Probe into the latest kernels. If you do a "cat /proc/pci" it should list all your cards. If you own cards which are not properly recogniced, please contact him via mail as "Frederic.Potter@masi.ibp.fr". See arch/i386/kernel/bios32.c and include/linux/pci.h in the kernel source for more information on PCI-Probe-Stuff. 1100..1111.. OOtthheerr PPCCII DDeevviicceess What other PCI-cards are supported? Apart from various graphicscards, I would like to know about other cards like ethernet, framegrabber, or the TSET boards Cyclades is about to beta-test at the moment: 1100..1111..11.. CCyyccllaaddeess:: aa 1166--ppoorrtt PPCCII RRIISSCC--bbaasseedd mmuullttiippoorrtt ccaarrdd.. The product is called Cyclom-Ye, and has the following characteristics: · PCI host card based on the PLX chip-set. This host card supports 8 to 32 serial ports, utilizing 8 or 16-port external boxes. · SCSI II cable. · 8 or 16-port external boxes with RJ45 or DB25 connectors (your choice). You can start with 8 ports and expand to 32, by just adding more boxes. Each external box contains 2 or 4 CD-1400 RISC Serial controllers (each CD-1400 controls 4 serial ports). · Up to 4 Host cards can be installed in the PC system, allowing a maximum of 128 serial ports per system. The product is being in the beta-test phase at July the 26th, 1995, and should be available by Octobre or something. eMail them at sales@cyclades.com. 1111.. CCoonncclluussiioonn If you have some moneny to put into your machine, you'd be well off with a Pentium90, ASUS-SP4, which is what I use at the moment. If you can afford 32M RAM that would be much better than 16M RAM. Real soon now the upcoming standard will be the Triton Chipset with support for special SIMMS called EDODRAM, and SRAM. Both will be more expensive than PS2-RAM, and at the time of writing (28-June-1995) SRAM is not available. While EDO-DRAM is more expensive, this is not because of the production costs, they are said to be the same. For a highperformance system I would still choose an ASUS-TP4/XE with EDO-DRAM, but if you do not need to use it at the moment, I d rather wait some more. For Graphic-boards I'd say the best cheap board fitting perfectly on a good Multisync-15 like the Samsung SyncMaster 15Gli, is the SPEA V7 Mirage P64 with Trio64 Chipset and 2M DRAM. For more sophisticated Display like the Iiyama-IDEK 8617A-T I think the PCI Mach64 ATI-GUP- Turbo (not the cheaper GUP-Turbo-Windows) would be a good choice, with 4M RAM you can have truecolor in higher resolutions. It is well supported in the XFree86(tm)-3.1.1, and there are commercial X-Servers available of which I'd recommend Accelerated/X by Roell, which supports the Mach64 very well and fast. For SCSI I'd take the DPT rather than the (much cheaper and very fast) NCR53c810 in case you plan to use SCSI-Tapes a lot. The NCR53c810 driver on Linux does lack disconnect/reconnect support, thus blocking the SCSIbus on operations like "mt rewind", "mt fsf" etc. It bears a performance penalty on tar-operations - but check out Drews new alpha drivers before making a decision, perhaps it does solve all the problems. For building servers, the DPT would be the controller of choice anyway because of all the nifty hardware cache (with elevator sorting on accesses, so cache it is not a silly thing even in a Linux enviroment where the OS does the caching) and RAID-Support up to raid level 5. If you do not want to spend that much money on computer equipment (e.g.: you are having a life) you might go for an ASUS-SP3-SiS with AMD-DX2/66 or DX4/100. The SPEA V7 Mirage P64 PCI with 2M DRAM would be a good choice, since it uses the Trio64 S3 Chip, which is well supported by XFree86(tm)-3.1.1, quite cheap to buy and fast, too. Another fine card since XFree86(tm)-3.1 is the fast and cheap et4000/w32-PCI-card. 1122.. TThhaannkkss I want to thank the following people for supporting this document: · David Lesher (wb8foz@netcom.com) for extensive help with the english language · Nathanael MAKAREVITCH (nat@nataa.frmug.fr.net) for translating into french · Jun Morimoto (morimoto@lab.imagica.co.jp) for translating into japanese · Marco Melgazzi (marco@vcldec1.polito.it) for translating into italian · Donald Becker (becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov) for ethernet- informations · Drew Eckhardt (drew@kinglear.cs.Colorado.EDU) for SCSI-informations · Zhahai Stewart (zhahai@hisys.com) for help with the intro section and many more peole adding information mostly by mail and by posts, some of them will be named here: CARSTEN@AWORLD.aworld.de, dmarples@comms.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk, drew@kinglear.cs.Colorado.EDU (Working at the PCI-NCR53c810-Driver), duncan@spd.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk, fm3@irz.inf.tu-dresden.de, grif@ucrengr.ucr.edu, heinrich@zsv.gmd.de, hm@ix.de (iX-Magazine), hm@seneca.ix.de, kebsch.pad@sni.de, kenf@clark.net, matthias@penthouse.boerde.de, ortloff@omega.informatik.uni-dortmund.de, preberle@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de, rob@me62.lbl.gov, rsi@netcom.com, sk001sp@unidui.uni-duisburg.de, strauss@dagoba.escape.de, strauss@dagoba.priconet.de, hi86@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de, Ulrich Teichert, krypton@netzservice.de, Stefan.Dalibor@informatik.uni-erlangen.de, tldraben@teleport.com mundkur@eagle.ece.uci.edu, ooch@jericho.mc.com, Gert Doering (gert@greenie.muc.de), James D. Levine (jdl@netcom.com), Georg von Below (gbelow@pmail.sams.ch), Jerome Meyers (jeromem@quake.xnet.com), Angelo Haritsis (ah@doc.ic.ac.uk), archie@CS.Berkeley.EDU and his friend kenf@clark.net. 1133.. ccooppyyrriigghhtt//lleeggaalleessee (c)opyright 1993,94 by Michael Will - the GPL (Gnu Public License) applies. See last section about this. If you sell this HOWTO on a CD or in a book I would be happy to have a copy for reference. (Michael.Will@student.uni-tuebingen.de) Contact me, either via eMail or call +49-7071-969063. Trademarks are owned by their owners. There is no warranty on the information in this document. For german users I am offering tested, preinstalled / preconfigured and supported Linux-PCI-machines. Call me at 07071-969063. 1144.. 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